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Luca
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Olá
Para os anais...
Opinião do Tim Bray, diretor de Tecnologias Web da Sun ao ser perguntado sobre SOA:
?What do you think we should do about SOA??
Tim Bray wrote:
?Don?t do anything. ?SOA? may have meant something once but it?s just vendor bullshit now.? Looking back, what happened was, certain software architects were uncomfortable with the framing that goes with the words ?Web Services?; maybe because people think anything with ?Web? in the name should be simple and lightweight and easy to set up. Thus SOA, which is so much more Enterprisey. Me, I want to go the other way. The crucial point is that Web-like things should be simple and lightweight and easy to set up; so I think the ?Web? part of ?Web Services? is more important than the ?Services? part. SOA isn?t the future, Web style is.
Fonte: Tim Bray no Canada on Rails
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Dare Obasanjo (Program Manager at Microsoft)
"The folks I know from across the industry who have to build large scale Web services on the Web today at Google, Yahoo!, Facebook, Windows Live, Amazon, etc are using RESTful Web services. The only times I encounter someone with good things to say about WS-* is if it is their job to pimp these technologies or they have already "invested" in WS-* and want to defend that investment."
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/07/2006 16:14:27
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AllMighty
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E cito o Martin Fowler, no post Service Oriented Ambiguity:
* For some SOA is about exposing software through web services. This crowd further sub-divides into those that expect the various WS-* standards and those that will accept any form of XML over http (and maybe not even XML).
* For some SOA implies an architecture where applications disappear. Instead you have core services that supply business functionality and data separated by UI aggregators that apply presentations that aggregate together the stuff that core services provide.
* For some SOA is about allowing systems to communicate over some form of standard structure (usually XML based) with other applications. In it's worse form this is "CORBA with angle brackets". In more sophisticated forms this involves coming up with some form of standard backbone for an organization and getting applications to work with this. This backbone may or may not involve http.
* For some SOA is all about using (mostly) asynchronous messaging to transfer documents between different systems. Essentially this is EAI without all the expensive EAI vendors locking you in.
O Tim Bray é um defensor de web services estilo REST, que é uma alternativa muito legal especialmente para serviços públicos (vejam o APP). Por algum motivo eu não vejo muita discussão sobre REST na comunidade Java.
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Valéria Carvalho Costa
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Oi, tive uma aula péssima de Java na faculdade, e fiquei com tanta raiva do "negócio" que tô até querendo que este "troço" morra, e olha que eu adoro a área de desenvolvimento.
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 15/07/2006 13:32:21
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saoj
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O livro desse cara é o mais complicado que eu já li na minha vida.
Não porque o cara é um mal autor, mas sim porque EJB e J2EE é a coisa mais bizarra que já inventaram.
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Sergio A Oliveira Jr. - saoj
ExperiMENTA:
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MentaQueue = http://mentaqueue.soliveirajr.com - Queue de alta-performance.
MentaLog = http://mentalog.soliveirajr.com - Non-intrusive, fast, garbage-less, colored and straightforward logging
MentaBean = http://mentabean.soliveirajr.com - Tiny ORM with SQL Builder
MentaRegex = http://mentaregex.soliveirajr.com - Perl-style regex for Java.
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Kawai = http://www.kawaiwiki.org
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![[Post New]](/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 17/07/2006 10:39:26
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rodrigousp
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E se falar assim:
"Windows 2000 vai morrer em 5 anos num mundo de interfaces 3D".
Não cola né!? Novas tecnologias surgem e evoluem. Obviamente o Java EE vai melhorar. Nem por isso o Java EE 5 vai ser jogado fora, sem mais nem menos. ASP.net está ai há quanto tempo!? Será que ASP já morreu "nesse mundo com .NET" !? Acho que o cara fez um comentário muito Ogro!
É só acompanhar a evolução da Apache Foundation, dos fabricantes de midleware e depois dar uma opinião razoável sobre o futuro do Java EE.
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