Simbolo Java

23 de março de 2007 14 respostas

nyrod 23 de março de 2007

Pq o simbolo java é uma xicara de café?

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kaabah 23 de mar. de 2007

Java é um tipo de café…

Do mesmo jeito que existe café conilon, arábica… Aí “java” é um desses tipos…

:idea:

nbluis 23 de mar. de 2007

Tanto a xicara quando o nome, é por que o café tomado pela equipe de desenvolvimento era da ilha de java.
Essa foi a historia que ouvi…

…

silva.fernandes 23 de mar. de 2007

Java para mim sempre significou algo como uma ilha próxima à linha do equador, ao norte do continente Australiano, ao sul da Malásia, e de que havia ouvido falar meramente nas aulas de arqueologia sobre o ?homem de Java?, um dos ?recentes? ancestrais do homem cuja arcada foi encontrada numa caverna daquela ilha.

Mas fiquei sabendo também que Java é a ilha mais rica da Indonésia, com cerca de 1000 km de extensão (leste-oeste) e 200 km (norte-sul). Neste território acidentado, onde ainda existem vulcões ativos com 3000 metros de altitude vivem cerca de 90 milhões de pessoas, a maioria em áreas rurais, onde 80% da produção é agricultura de subsistência.

Bem podemos fazer qualquer correlação ao nome Java. :shock:

Agora vamos procurar um pouco mais na história.

Historiadores como o britânico Sir Henry Blount alegam que os antigos espartanos já bebiam café, mas não há provas claras sobre isto. Portanto, toda história do café começa na Etiópia no século VI de nossa era, quando a fruta era comida in natura. Por volta do ano 900 o valor medicinal do café era proclamado conforme registrado na antiga enciclopédia ?Arab Scholar Avicenna?. Mas a verdadeira propagação se deu no ano de 1258 quando o café viajou de lá para a Arábia, via porto de Mocha que ficava no Mar Vermelho. Em poucos anos se espalhou juntamente com a cultura do Islam pelo oriente médio. No século XVI se espalhou pela Europa onde era consumido exclusivamente por homens muito ricos, pois os árabes mantinham consigo total controle sobre o cultivo desta planta. Havia algumas poucas árvores na Índia cultivadas por um peregrino muçulmano, mas o único lugar através do qual a planta era exportada ainda era o porto de Mocha. Após o fim do domínio muçulmano na Europa e no oriente, os franceses perceberam que podiam obter café da Índia e tentaram plantar no sul da França, mas todas as mudas foram destruídas pelas geadas.

No século XVII os exploradores holandeses levaram (também da Índia) mudas da planta para o Ceilão e região a leste da Índia onde o solo de origem vulcânica de Java se mostrou perfeito para o florescimento do café. Naquela época, franceses e holandeses competiam por estabelecer colônias em terras não ocupadas e que não oferecessem resistência imediata. Basta lembrarmos as invasões holandesas e também francesas na costa brasileira que vimos nos livros de história do Brasil. Na tentativa de uma ?política da boa vizinhança?, os holandeses presentearam em 1715 o rei Luiz XIV (grande apreciador desta bebida) com uma muda que foi plantada e cultivada nos jardins do palácio. Esta muda de café foi contrabandeada do porto de Mocha para Java, depois à Holanda e então para Paris. Apesar dos cuidados a árvore acabou morrendo, mas ainda produziu algumas sementes. Um soldado da infantaria seduziu uma dama da corte que deu a ele três mudas produzidas a partir daquelas sementes, as quais foram levadas até Martinica (no Caribe). Apenas uma planta sobreviveu à viagem e quatro anos depois produziu uma colheita com algumas sementes. Estas sementes foram presenteadas ao fazendeiro mais próspero daquelas ilhas (o que não é novidade devido ao alto valor da especiaria). Cinqüenta anos mais tarde um levantamento oficial constatou a existência de dezenove milhões de pés de café espalhados pela ilha de Martinica.

Mas oque o Brasil tem haver com tudo isso? :shock:

Assim o café entrou no Brasil em 1727, tendo sido as primeiras mudas plantadas no Rio de Janeiro onde se deram muito bem e sua plantação se espalhou para Bahia, depois o Espírito Santo, São Paulo e o resto do Brasil. Para ter uma idéia desta evolução, em 1810 a Bahia produziu quase mil sacas de café (cerca de 937) e cinqüenta anos mais tarde, sua produção era de cem mil sacas ao ano. Com este crescimento de produção a popularização do café ganhou um rumo irreversível. Aprendi na escola que o motivo da cultura do café ter prosperado no norte do Estado do Paraná se deve ao solo chamado de terra roxa ou ?barro de massapé?, ou seja, solo de origem vulcânica como o solo da ilha de Java.

Bem gente, essa explicação foi a unica que encontrei para associar a xícara a linguagem Java, pois essa pergunta sempre foi objeto de dúvida que sempre me fizeram.

So me desculpem pelo “post pergaminho”
[Editado - Esqueci de colocar a referencia
Fontes:
Grande Enciclopédia Larousse Cultural
CAFÉ-La Dolce Vita - Asa Editores Ltda.
Aroma de Café- Luiz Norberto Pascoal
Le Café - Anne Vantal ]

Abraços

lina 23 de mar. de 2007

“java” foi o nome da cachorrinha do criador da linguagem,
na verdade o nome dela não era java e sim a abreviação J.V (em ingles claro)…
porem o sobrinho do desenvolvedor (aproximadamente com idade de uns 3 ou 4 anos) não
conseguia falar a palavra J.V e sempre que ia chamar a cachorrinha não conseguia, e fala Java!, vem aqui java…

em fim, foi posto a xicare de café no simbolo, porque como a cachorrinha era do tipo “cachorrinha de bolso” ela não conseguia comer ração no pote normal, como qualquer cachorro… e a unica solução foi colocar agua e ração em um xicara (pois só assim ele conseguia)…

Dai ficou!

Tchauzin!

dina 23 de mar. de 2007

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Caramba!

sks.Rafael 23 de mar. de 2007

Java, tem esse nome e simbolo, porque um dos fundadores de Java, tinha em sua arvore
genealogica, um Tataravô que era um Barão do Café…
Sua família também era desse ramo…
Por isso o nome Java…
Foi isso que me contaram!!!

Abraços

renomoto 23 de mar. de 2007

O nome Java foi inventado em uma loja de café local freqüentada por alguns dos membros. Não está desobstruído se o nome é um acrônimo ou não; embora alguns clientes reivindiquem que está para os nomes James Gosling, Arthur Van Hoff, e Andy Bechtolsheim, ou apenas um outro acrônimo vago, aceita-se geralmente que “Java” não está para qualquer coisa.

Abs!

clodoaldoaleixo 23 de mar. de 2007

Diz a lenda, que em uma galáxia muito muito distante, a muito tempo atrás existia uma linda princesa chamada Cicciolina, que sofria nas mãos de um rei muito tirano, o nome desse Rei era Hannibal Lecter.

Após séculos de sofrimento, pq na verdade ela era uma vampira, então ela viveu por séculos, conheceu um belo rapaz por quem se apaixonou e viu ali uma oportunidade de sair daquele regime tirano do Rei Lecter.

O rapaz se chamava Neo, um programador meio nerd meio mestre em artes marciais que nas horas vagas também era cavavaleiro da tavola redonda.

Neo, junto com sua trupe formada por Lancelot, Morpheus, Spider Man e Hell Boy pos fim aquele império de sofrimento imposto ao Reino e libertou a doce princesa.

Bem…resumindo,o filho da união entre Neo, Morpheus e a doce princesa
Cicciolina, sim Morpheus era meio gay nessa história, então, o filho se chamava Jaspion, que futuramente se tornaria um famoso herói de séries japonesas.

Bem…amanha novos episódios, prometo que até o final da trama, todos saberão de onde surgiu o nome “Java”.

Thiago_Sylas 5 de out. de 2010

[color=blue][size=18]Eu ainda estou pesquisando sobre a origem do nome e acredito que daqui a pouco vou saber se alguma dessas histórias acima é real, mas galera parabéns pela criatividade![/color][b]

bezier_curve 5 de out. de 2010

http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/entry/better_is_always_different

From: James Gosling
Date: August 24, 2007 8:16:58 PM PDT
To: Jonathan Schwartz
Subject: How was Java named?

The story goes like this:

We needed a name. We had been using “oak” (which was selected essentially randomly by me), and while the team had grown attached to it, the trademark lawyers ruled it out. We had lots of email debates about names, but nothing got resolved. We ended up in the awkward position where the #1 thing stopping us from shipping was the name.

Our marketing lead knew someone who was a “naming consultant” (I don’t remember his name, but he was great). We could neither afford the price nor the time of a conventional product naming process. He agreed to do something rather odd, but effective and quick: he acted as a facilitator at a meeting where about a dozen of us locked ourselves in a room for an afternoon. He started asking us questions like “How does this thing make you feel?” (Excited!) “What else makes you feel that way?” (Java!) We ended up with a board covered with essentially random words. Then he put us through a sorting process where we ended up with a ranking of the names. We ended up with a dozen name candidates and sent them off to the lawyers: they worked down the list until they hit one that cleared their search. “Java” was the fourth name on the list. The first name on the list was “Silk”, which I hated but everyone else liked. My favorite was “Lyric”, the third one on the list, but it didn’t pass the lawyers test. I don’t remember what the other candidate names where.

So, who named Java? Marketing organized the meeting, the consultant ran it, and a whole pile of us did a lot of yelling out of random words. I’m honestly not real sure who said “Java” first, but I’m pretty sure it was Mark Opperman.

There certainly wasn’t any brilliant marketing mind who went through a coherent thought process.

Imagine se o nome “Silk” tivesse sido adotado. Você seria um “Silk-man” em vez de um “Java-man”? Muito “sedoso” pro meu gosto. Acho que não faria tanto sucesso.

“Java man” é o nome dado a um esqueleto de um ser humano muito antigo, encontrado na ilha de Java. Veja: http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homem_de_Java

bezier_curve 5 de out. de 2010

Outra versão:

http://www.thejavablog.info/?p=4

James Gosling, Mike Sheridan, and Patrick Naughton initiated the Java language project in June 1991. Java was originally designed for interactive television, but it was too advanced. The language was initially called Oak after an oak tree that stood outside Gosling’s office; it went by the name Green later, and was later renamed Java, from a list of random words. But do you know why it was named “Java” when there are millions of other names which were equally probable to be used?

Well, read on and you will know why. To find out the true story behind the name “Java”, several of the key people at Sun involved in the naming process were interviewed. Their accounts appear below.

“The lawyers had told us that we couldn’t use the name ‘OAK’ because it was already trademarked by Oak Technologies,” said Frank Yellin, a senior engineer at Sun. “So a brainstorming session was held to come up with ideas for a new name. The session was attended by all members of what was then called the Live Oak group, those of us actively working on the new language. The end result was that about ten possible names were chosen. They were then submitted to the legal department. Three of them came back clean: Java, DNA, and Silk. No one remembers who first came up with the name ‘Java.’ Only one person, to the best of my knowledge, has ever suggested in public to being the creator of the name.”

“I named Java,” said Kim Polese, then the Oak product manager and now CEO of Marimba Inc. “I spent a lot of time and energy on naming Java because I wanted to get precisely the right name. I wanted something that reflected the essence of the technology: dynamic, revolutionary, lively, fun. Because this programming language was so unique, I was determined to avoid nerdy names. I also didn’t want anything with ‘Net’ or ‘Web’ in it, because I find those names very forgettable. I wanted something that was cool, unique, and easy to spell and fun to say. I gathered the team together in a room, wrote up on the whiteboard words like ‘dynamic,’ ‘alive,’ ‘jolt,’ ‘impact,’ ‘revolutionary,’ etcetera, and led the group in brainstorming,” Polese said. “The name “Java” emerged during that session. Other names included DNA, Silk, Ruby, and WRL, for WebRunner Language, yuck!”

“I believe the brainstorming meeting was held around January of 1995,” said Sami Shaio, a Sun engineer at the time, who has since become a founding partner of Marimba. “It’s actually hard to say where ‘Java’ first came from, but it ended up on the list of candidates we chose along with Silk, Lyric, Pepper, NetProse, Neon, and a host of others too embarrassing to mention.”

“Some other candidates were WebDancer and WebSpinner,” said Chris Warth, an engineer on the project from its inception and currently a consultant at JavaSoft. “Although marketing wanted a name that implied an association with the Web or the Net, I think we did very well to pick a name that wasn’t associated with either one. Java is likely to find a true home in applications far from the Internet, so it’s best that it wasn’t pigeonholed early.”

“The name ‘Java’ originated in a meeting where about a dozen people got together to brainstorm,” said James Gosling, a vice president and fellow of Sun, and the author of Oak. “The meeting, arranged by Kim Polese, was fundamentally continuous wild craziness. Lots of people just yelled out words. Who yelled out what first is unknowable and unimportant. It felt like half of the words in the dictionary were yelled out at one time or another. There was a lot of: ‘I like this because…’ and ‘I don’t like that because…’ And in the end we whittled it down to a list of about a dozen names and handed it off to the lawyers.”

“We were really disgusted and tired from all the marathon hacking we’d been doing at the time, and we still hadn’t found a name that we could use,” said Sun engineer Timothy Lindholm. “We were pressed for time, as adopting a new name meant a lot of work, and we had releases coming up. So we set up a meeting to thrash out a list of names. The meeting went on for quite a while, and I remember there wasn’t anything that jumped out as obviously the right thing to do. We were talking in despair about dumb names like Rover. We ended up with a final list, and Java was one of the top choices along with Silk, as in what you spin webs with. I do not remember there being a particular champion of Java. Among the people of the original group that I’ve talked to about this, most deny any memory of Java being anything but something that bubbled out of the group dynamic.”

“I believe the name was first suggested by Chris Warth,” said Arthur van Hoff, a senior engineer on the project and now CTO of Marimba Inc. “We had been in the meeting for hours and, while he was drinking a cup of Peet’s Java, he picked ‘Java’ as an example of yet another name that would never work. The initial reaction was mixed. I believe the final candidates were Silk, DNA, and Java, however. I suggested Lingua Java, but that didn’t make it. We could not trademark the other names, so Java ended up being the name of choice. In the end, our marketing person, Kim Polese, finally decided to go ahead with it.”

“I test-marketed the names at parties, and on my friends and family members,” Polese recalled. “And Java got the most positive reactions of all the candidates. Because it wasn’t certain that we would get any of the names cleared through trademark, I selected about three or four and worked with the lawyers on clearing them. Java passed, and it was my favorite, so I named the language Java and subsequently named the browser HotJava, a much better name than WebRunner. The engineers had a hard time parting with Oak, but they finally got used to it. I felt that branding was very important, because I wanted Java to be a standard. So I focused on building a very strong brand for Java.”

We held a final meeting to vote on the name," said Yellin. “Every person got to rank Java, DNA, and Silk in order of their preference. The same name that got the most ‘most-favorite votes’ also got the most ‘least-favorite’ votes. So it was dropped. And of the remaining two, Java got the most votes. So it became the preferred name.”

“It came down to Silk or Java, and Java won out,” Shaio remembered. “James Gosling seemed to favor Java over Silk. Kim Polese had the final say over the name, since she was the product manager. But most decisions back then were done by everyone kind of agreeing, and then someone would just say, ‘OK, this is what we’re doing.’”

“I can tell you precisely about the decision to choose the name,” said Eric Schmidt, Sun’s chief technology officer. “We met in early 1995 at 100 Hamilton in one of our standard operating reviews for little businesses like Oak. Bert Sutherland was the senior manager at the time, he worked for me, and he and Kim and a few others including James were there. Kim presented that: one, we had to choose a new name now, and two, Oak which we were all used to, was taken. As I recall, she proposed two names, Java and Silk. Of the two, she strongly preferred Java and represented that the Live Oak team was in agreement. Bert and I decided to approve her recommendation, and the decision was made. For those reasons I believe it is correct to give Kim the credit for the name. She presented it and sold it, and then made it happen in marketing.”

“I do seem to recall that Kim Polese was initially lukewarm on the name ‘Java’”, recalled Warth. "At the time we were also trying to rename our browser from WebRunner, which had been already taken by Taligent, to something that wasn’t already trademarked. Kim wanted things like WebSpinner or even WebDancer, something that would make it clear that this was a World Wide Web product. The trademark search was done, and after several weeks a short list of cleared names came back. There seemed to be an endless series of meetings and approvals that were necessary, as if the name were actually meaningful.

“At the time Kim wanted us to hold up the release so we could find a better name than Java, but she was overruled by the engineers, especially James and Arthur van Hoff and myself,” Warth said. “At one point James said we were going to go with Java and HotJava, and Kim sent some e-mail asking us to wait for other names that might clear. James wrote back and said ‘no,’ we were going with what we had. And we just did a very quick set of renames in the source code and put the release out. In the end, I think the marketeers and vice presidents had far less to say about the name than the engineers who were dying to get something out the door.”

“I think Kim is rewriting history a bit when she suggests that she picked this name for some savvy marketing reason,” Warth said. “We ended up with this name because we ran out of options and we wanted to get our product out. The marketing justifications came later.”

“If Arthur’s recollections are accurate, and I have no reason to doubt them, then Chris named the language Java,” said Bob Weisblatt, the Java group’s self-described “technical writer and margarita master” who now works at Active Software. “I don’t remember who first yelled out the name Java. Chris always had a cup of coffee handy so it makes sense that he’d be the one. Of one thing I am certain: Kim did not name the language Java.”

Incidentally, Warth noted that Java was actually the third name for the language. “When we were working on the Green project, James first called it “Greentalk” and the file extension was “.gt”,” Warth said. "Then it became “Oak” for several years and only relatively recently was it called “Java.”

“I don’t claim to be the one who first suggested the name,” said Warth when questioned about van Hoff’s statement. "It definitely was Peet’s Java [we were drinking], but it might have been me or James Gosling or someone else. I just don’t recall exactly who said it.

“The feeling amongst myself and James and the other engineers was that we could call it ‘xyzzy’ and it would still be popular,” Warth added. “In the end it doesn’t matter who originally suggested the name, because it ultimately was a group decision, perhaps helped along by a handful of caffeinated people.”

“I think that the extent to which the people involved have considered the history of Java’s name without arriving at any generally agreed-upon resolution shows that the naming of Java was not done by some heroic individual, but was a by-product of a creative and driven group trying very hard to achieve their goals, of which this name was a part,” concluded Lindholm. “I would encourage you not to strive beyond what is reasonable in ascribing the naming of Java to an individual. That is simply not the way things worked in those days. Don’t be fooled by how individuals and the media have subsequently filtered many elements of Java’s creation to fit their own ends.”

gqferreira 5 de out. de 2010

Bom, acho que tem a ver com a ilha de java, pois tem uma ilha chamada jakarta e que também é nome de um projeto relacionado a java.

Storm 6 de out. de 2010

A história que eu ouvi foi que
os criadores do java estavam tomando café
enquanto tiveram a ideia de criar essa maravilhosa imagem!!
ai ficou a imagem da xicara!!

lina 6 de out. de 2010

lina:
“java” foi o nome da cachorrinha do criador da linguagem,
na verdade o nome dela não era java e sim a abreviação J.V (em ingles claro)…
porem o sobrinho do desenvolvedor (aproximadamente com idade de uns 3 ou 4 anos) não
conseguia falar a palavra J.V e sempre que ia chamar a cachorrinha não conseguia, e fala Java!, vem aqui java…

em fim, foi posto a xicare de café no simbolo, porque como a cachorrinha era do tipo “cachorrinha de bolso” ela não conseguia comer ração no pote normal, como qualquer cachorro… e a unica solução foi colocar agua e ração em um xicara (pois só assim ele conseguia)…

Dai ficou!

Tchauzin!

Oi,

Meu Deus. Como eu era tosca. Era?!

Tchauzin!

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